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seems that some of them have some sense after all ... thank goodness ...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&e=1&u=/ap/20040714/ap_on_go_co/gay_marriage

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lyteinc
Jul. 14th, 2004 07:08 pm (UTC)
"In South Dakota, we've never had a single same sex marriage and we won't have any," he said. "It's prohibited by South Dakota law as it is now in 38 other states. There is no confusion. There is no ambiguity."

That's the heart of the issue IMO, it's a state decision, not a federal one. I think that there should be states that have the right for homosexuals to marry, as well as states where they can't. With an issue this big, people should have the right to raise a family where they feel they are in agreement with the population. If they don't like the fact that there are gay families in their community, they have the right to choose to live elsewhere, in a place where they can avoid that behavior.

IMO, that's segragation, but it's by choice. I choose to live here, and if there were some elements that made it horrible for me to live here, I'd move. That said, if you have a different lifestyle, you can't expect everyone to accept that you be allowed to live that lifestyle everywhere. Too much tolerance makes us soft, while too much seperation makes us hate. This country needs to have a balance of both, and in this issue, with states deciding on it, there becomes a balance.
allthingsshiny
Jul. 14th, 2004 07:15 pm (UTC)
i totally agree that it is, at it's heart, a state's rights issue. even ignoring that the idea of regulating who gets to marry who is disgusting, it isn't for the federal gov't to decide. equivalent matters of contractual law are delegated to the states by the constitution, why would marriage be any exception?
lyteinc
Jul. 14th, 2004 07:19 pm (UTC)
And if the state votes on whether to allow such unions, and the majority passes it, I don't understand why anyone would have any more gripes. Unless they were a facist fundamentalist Bible thumper, and then I really don't care what they want.
allthingsshiny
Jul. 14th, 2004 07:24 pm (UTC)
i really don't thing it's a matter that should be voted upon. popular opinion does not change the moral rightness of an idea - and i have no doubt that many, if not most, people would vote against allowing gay marriage, but it should be part of our system anyway.

i'd have more coherent discussion if i wasn't so tired.
vtron21
Jul. 14th, 2004 09:16 pm (UTC)
Personaly I don't think that it is an issue that our Federal, State, or Local governments should be able to decide period. if someone wants to marry someone of the same sex then bloody let them
allthingsshiny
Jul. 15th, 2004 04:43 am (UTC)
exactly.

I'm just saying that on top of that, the federal gov't has no place getting involved at all, as it is not their business.
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